I reckon it’s a good time for me to do a quick review of our StashAway and Smartly Singapore robo-advisor accounts as well as the investing strategy with them so far. After all, it has been more than half a year since we started opening these accounts. We now have 1 x StashAway and 1x Smartly robo-advisor accounts each between my wife and I.
Account Balances and Returns
My wife’s robo-advisor accounts have higher balances since they were opened earlier and the monthly value of automatic funds transfers into her accounts is greater. Given the drop in equity markets and depreciation of US$, my wife’s robo-advisor accounts have small positive returns and mine have small negative returns.
Given that we have the highest risk profiles portfolios, it seems like Smartly has a slightly more aggressive ETFs allocations. I have noticed that the Smartly positive and negative returns tend to be a bit bigger than StashAway. However, the difference is negligible in the short run and it’s difficult to tell which investing approach is better. I guess we will find out over time.
Referral Programs and Improvements
Both referral programs (StashAway’s was introduced earlier) reward us with days of free management for the referrer and referee – StashAway is S$10,000 limit for 6 months and Smartly is S$10,000 limit for 90 days. Smartly has an additional incentive of rewarding the user with 7 days of free management monthly for setting up automatic funds transfers into the account. There are no limits on the number of referrals for now. Anything that helps to reduce our fees paid is a good thing and it will help to increase our returns.
StashAway has made more improvements to its user interface and it even has a mobile application. There is more detailed information breakdown and greater transparency. Conversely, Smartly has been slow to make improvements to its user interface and is in the process of developing a mobile application. The latter has insufficient breakdown of information such as transactions and dividends reinvestments. I hope both StashAway and Smartly continue to work on improving the user experience and interface.
Investing Lead Times
Currently, when an automatic or manual funds transfer hits the Smartly robo-advisor account, the cash gets invested by the next day i.e. when the US equity markets open that night. This is the same for the StashAway robo-advisor account. Previously, it took a few days (Smartly had a shorter lead time and StashAway had a longer lead time) for the cash to be invested.
This used to be an area of annoyance for me. Especially when it came to my manual funds transfers that I initiated when the equity markets corrected. If the lead time is too long, the cash can get invested in the rebound stage instead of the dip stage of the equity markets. I got caught badly by StashAway once when doing a manual funds transfer because of its longer lead time previously. Since then, both Smartly and StashAway have reduced their investing lead times to 1 day. Well done!
Engagement
All together, we have invested about S$8,000 into the StashAway and Smartly robo-advisor accounts so far. We intend to stay with both of them and support their development. StashAway has really stepped up to engage the community in various investing conversations but Smartly has been rather quiet so far. As a bank staff and retail customer, I think the average person is still not willing to invest with a robo-advisor. This could be due to a lack of awareness, lack of understanding or just not enough trust in a digital investment service.
Investing habits take time to change and the average person in Singapore already doesn’t invest much in stocks and bonds. He/she rather invest in property and insurance policies. StashAway and Smartly have the opportunity to be at the forefront of educating the public on digital investment services and changing their behavior. That’s how they can encourage more people to open accounts with them and reach higher levels of invested amounts that allow them to start lowering their fees. Be aggressive and gain market share before the competition increases further. By the way, keep sending those updates and newsletters to the users. Keep the topics and way of writing interesting and we will continue to read them!
Kevin says
Compared to you, I’m less tolerant of Smartly.
I’m thinking from the perspective of a developer. If it takes them so long to implement a basic and extremely fundamental feature such as “Activity”, it is going to be really troubling in the long run, to say the least. This is why I have not recommended a single person to them, whereas my referral list for the other two is constantly increasing.
Finance Smiths says
Haha, yes, I noticed that as well. That page has been under development for a long time and I’m still wondering why. Anyway, I hope Smartly improves because I reckon it would still be good to have more competition in this space!
Kevin says
Maybe I’m just too picky. With regards to competition, I agree totally. At least there are two more to choose from at the moment, and both are looking rather solid at the moment.
Finance Smiths says
I reckon you are onto something about Smartly and they should try to improve on that aspect before they start losing customers because of it. Oh, I haven’t tried AutoWealth yet, maybe it’s time I looked into it!
J says
I tried using portfolio visualizer to back test AW, Stashaway, and Smarty asset allocation to compare returns and risk characteristics. Since they started around 2016, SA actually under-performed AW and Smartly as far as i could see on portfolio visualizer. Smarty seems to have a more superior risk return characteristic in this economic climate.
Finance Smiths says
That’s good to know and it probably supports my decision to continue with Smartly for now. I can only hope they improve their user interface and experience soon!
J says
This is the back test results as follows; AW, Smartly, Stashaway. Smartly is clearly more superior with a higher cage and better sharpe ratio.
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio?s=y&timePeriod=4&startYear=2016&firstMonth=1&endYear=2018&lastMonth=12&endDate=01%2F26%2F2018&initialAmount=100000&annualOperation=0&annualAdjustment=0&inflationAdjusted=true&annualPercentage=0.0&frequency=4&rebalanceType=5&showYield=true&reinvestDividends=true&benchmark=VFINX&symbol1=VTI&allocation1_1=44.8&allocation1_2=10&symbol2=VGK&allocation2_1=17.3&symbol3=VPL&allocation3_1=9.8&symbol4=VWO&allocation4_1=8.1&allocation4_2=15&symbol5=IEF&allocation5_1=7&symbol6=IGOV&allocation6_1=13&symbol7=VIG&allocation7_2=29&symbol8=VEA&allocation8_2=35&symbol9=GLD&allocation9_2=10&allocation9_3=14.85&symbol10=TLT&allocation10_3=8.42&symbol11=TIP&allocation11_3=14.85&symbol12=XLY&allocation12_3=14.85&symbol13=XLP&allocation13_3=14.36&symbol14=XLK&allocation14_3=2.97&symbol15=CWB&allocation15_3=14.85&symbol16=AAXJ&allocation16_3=13.85&symbol17=CASHX&allocation17_2=1&allocation17_3=1
Finance Smiths says
Thanks for providing your back test results!
Keir Veskivali (Founder at Smartly) says
Thank you for the constructive feedback, we appreciate that. I’ve always believed that it was our job to build the platform and after launch have customers tell us what needs to be improved. We have invested a lot of time and effort into making sure that our portfilios are performing on the highest level and it is good to see that people have noticed it. Activity tab will go live beginning of next week. Happy to answer any other questions. Keir
Finance Smiths says
Thanks for the response Keir! Appreciate the effort and we will continue to provide feedback on improving Smartly!:)