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Stacking UOB One Bank Account & T-Bills and Monthly Investment Plans

06.11.2023 by Finance Smiths //

Can’t believe it’s already June! The weather has been so hot and humid with occasional sudden drastic changes from sunny to rainy in the same day. My older boy started falling sick and this spread to my younger boy before reaching my wife, helper and I. Which means more sleepless nights and cranky days for all of us. We are trying to break the vicious cycle but it’s difficult to manage what kind of viral and bacterial infections my older boy picks up from the childcare. Usually the source of our problems so we just have to wait for his immunity to level up before we can address it.

Anyway, I finally have a window to blog on a Sun and it’s going to be an update on what I have been doing financially. Recently, I was able to change my salary crediting to the UOB One bank account and started directing more of my family expenses to the UOB One credit card. Got to say, I have no idea how they are offering such relatively high interest rates and cash rebate rates on the UOB One bank account and credit card respectively. Not sure how long it would last but I have just been working towards building up my UOB One bank account balance to S$100,000. Which is the maximum amount to qualify for the tiered highest interest rate.

My UOB One bank account balance should reach S$100,000 by the end of the month. And I would consider my liquid cash buffer as officially in place and sufficient. It was a totally different story 6 months ago when my cash levels were running very low due to a combination of bad financial decisions and outcomes. Maybe because my family was transitioning to life with 2 kids but I have never felt this vulnerable to negative news like recession & retrenchment fears and unexpected drawdowns. I’m going to remember this experience because it has changed my approach to investments.

I used to be more impatient in deploying my cash and chasing the market to generate a higher return. It felt like I had to do something with my money or I will be left behind. This worked well during the Covid crisis because central banks cut interest rates and turned on the liquidity taps. Got burnt terribly during the Tech and Crypto meltdown crisis along with central banks raising interest rates to combat high inflation. It was just 2 years apart but the profits I made in the 1st event turned into losses in the 2nd event by applying the same investment approach without considering how the environment has changed.

So what am I doing about it now? Just going with the flow. Base interest rate on the UOB One bank account is 3.85% for the first $30,000 and it goes up from there with more deposits. Latest 6-Month T-Bills cut-off yield is 3.84%. Ok then, I will keep stacking cash. I know local Bank Stocks and REITs offer higher yields. If I only want to chase dividends, this would probably be a decent time to start taking positions in them. Maybe I got scared and became more afraid & fearful. Maybe I learnt my lesson and became more experienced & cautious. 2 sides of a coin depending on how you look at it. Only time will tell whether I did the right thing.

For now, my automated Monthly Investment Plans are still increasing my exposure to equities via local and foreign ETFs. Not planning to adjust their investment levels until a significant event happens. Actually, I’m not planning on making any significant investments until a major event happens. Is it because I want to market time? Doesn’t time in the market beat market timing? Actually, for me, I realised over time that I don’t have the temperament and skillset to invest well enough to live off it. No matter how much I practice it. Because there are too few major stress events in my lifespan to test whether my approach really works. I never get the same black swan event twice.

The factors involved and responses by people (whether government, central banks, founders, etc) always cause the environment to be different each time. Sure, greed is always the source of the problem. But it manifests in so many ways that I can’t tell whether it’s because my approach is wrong or because the reactions are not what I expected. And even if I wanted to change my approach, it will take years to properly change my mindset and settle into a comfortable state. By then, who knows what can happen? Probably why they say it takes decades to become a decent (not even good) investor. And that’s if you stick at it, practise and not give up when you get knocked out. Or even have the capital, time and energy to restart?

You know what was my best financial move in the past few years ever since my 1st kid was born? It was moving jobs and increasing my salary income. As long as I keep my job and maintain this increment along with the bonus, in just the next few years, it would outdo any investment efforts I have made in the past decade and a half. My wife landed such a job earlier than me and her salary income is the reason why we could still recover despite my massive investment failures. Perhaps the focus really should be on maximising human capital first (in a job followed by starting a business). Maximising investment capital can come later and in fact, more naturally, when you have learnt to utilise yourself efficiently and effectively. Besides, the more you don’t need something, the easier it comes your way because you are not stressing and thinking about when you will get it. Now, this is something worth working towards for me.

Categories // Bank Account, MIP, T-Bill

Our Reaction To 1 Aug 2018 Revised UOB One Account

07.29.2018 by Finance Smiths //

Despite spending less time writing posts on my blog, I still read up on the articles by other bloggers. After all, there’s a lot of useful information to be picked up from them. Recently, I read Heartland Boy’s post on An Eye-Popping 3.88% For The Revised UOB One Savings Account. I like the analysis and found it to be more practical than the notification I got from UOB about the same change.

This comes at a good time for us. We have already maxed out the high interest savings accounts that we have with the remaining cash funds being rotated through the Stan Chart ESaver Accounts to take advantage of the promotional interest rates. The increase in the upper limit of the UOB One Account with a slightly higher effective interest rate means that we can divert more of our cash holdings to it for higher interest earned.

On 1 Aug 2018, I can transfer S$25,000 into my UOB One Account and my wife can transfer S$25,000 into her UOB One Account. We would still have about S$100,000 rotating through the Stan Chart ESaver Accounts after this. It’s slowly being invested during market dips and we have been patiently waiting for opportunities on individual stocks & ETFs to surface. This is on top of our regular automatic and robo-advisor monthly investments into ETFs, whereby the amounts are drawn from our salary income for that month.

Which means that we will continue to retain that S$100,000 for manual investments. When work gets tough, I feel tempted to increase the utilisation rate of this investment cash holding. This has been the case lately as both our jobs undergo another round of restructuring. Even if we survive, our teams get leaner, which means more work to be done by us for the same pay due to having less people around. It’s an annoying situation to be in and usually results in low team morale. All around creating a negative work environment. Seems like this year is all about weathering the storms!

Categories // Bank Account

Wife registers for DBS BYOB Promotion and SAYE Account

08.11.2017 by Finance Smiths //

Just when I had a go at criticizing the DBS Be Your Own Boss (BYOB) Promotion and Save As You Earn (SAYE) Account, my wife expresses interest in it. I can see the reason behind this. From this month onwards, my wife’s salary will be credited into a DBS savings account held in her name. She wanted to know if it’s possible for us to utilize that to our advantage. After all, salary crediting usually allows for higher interest to be earned, as you can see from the OCBC 360 and UOB One bank accounts. I’m pleased she has thought about this. Well done!

This is how we considered whether my wife should register for the DBS BYOB Promotion and SAYE Account. First, we looked at the DBS BYOB Promotion website landing page and the key conditions and benefits are highlighted on the webpage. However, we noted a few concerns about the mechanics and went to the Terms and Conditions for more information. This happens almost every time for us with DBS products and it’s my biggest problem with them.

DBS doesn’t offer easy to understand special banking accounts/products to the mass individual customer market. They like to come up with complex stuff, make you jump through additional hoops and hurdles, before giving you what you want. Don’t get me wrong. You can get good stuff at the end of the obstacle course. My main criticism is the fact that you have to put in extra and unnecessary work to get it. When they could have just given it to you in a more convenient manner.

Let’s analyse the Terms and Conditions as applied to my wife. You will be able to see why this is an annoying process even though she decided to register for the DBS BYOB Promotion and proceeded to open the SAYE Account in the end. By the time we figured out this is beneficial to us, my wife almost decided against registering for it because of the additional legwork involved.

Age Restriction

The DBS BYOB Promotion is open to customers aged from 18 to 30 years old at the point of registration. My wife is 29 years old and just made the cutoff.

Salary Crediting

My wife does not have a salary crediting arrangement with DBS between 1 September 2016 and 28 February 2017 since her salary crediting into a DBS savings account will only start this month.

Register Online

She registered online and provided her details using the link.

Open SAYE Account Online

My wife logged in to her internet banking to apply for the SAYE Account. Her DBS salary crediting account is selected as the debiting account for the maximum monthly savings amount of S$3,000 on 24th of every month into the SAYE Account. The maximum limit works for her because she can save S$3,000 every month from her salary and the timing works as well because that’s right after her salary is credited.

No Withdrawals

She should not need to withdraw from the SAYE Account as long as she continues to remain employed. If this is the case, we are basically setting aside cash she should have saved monthly anyway from her salary income in a different bank account. Besides, we have sufficient cash savings for our expenses and investments without withdrawing from the SAYE Account.

Existing POSB Principal Credit Card Member

My wife has a POSB Everyday Credit Card that is used as an EZ-Link card (i.e. EZ-Reload charges), for utilities bill payments and to make purchases of Watsons products and Golden Village movie tickets. No where near the required 5 retail transactions per calendar month. We could start charging some of our Singtel and Starhub bills to the POSB Everyday Credit Card but we are not sure whether they count. Alternatively, we could start charging some of our groceries and dining expenses to the POSB Everyday Credit Card but it’s such a waste of the better cash rebate we can get on other credit cards. We might explore the Cashback Bonus program but we only fulfill 2 of the 5 categories so far. Another gripe of ours but oh well, sacrifices need to be made.

Benefits

2% pa interest on the monthly savings in the SAYE Account credited into the same account. Another 2% pa bonus interest on the monthly savings in the SAYE Account credited into her Paylah account. S$88 cash gift because she registered by 30 September 2017. We have already maxed out the balances in the high interest (about 2% pa) OCBC 360 and UOB One bank accounts already. We are left with rotating our remaining cash funds between the relatively high (about 1% pa) CIMB FastSaver, Stan Chart ESaver (with promotion) and UOB Uniplus (with promotion) bank accounts. The combined possible 4% pa DBS BYOB Promotion and SAYE Account for the next 2 years should still beat our cash funds rotation approach.

Conclusion

We will be monitoring on a monthly basis how much interest gets credited into my wife’s PAYE and PayLah accounts where applicable after ensuring we meet our above interpretations of the conditions. We don’t like having to backcheck that we have been correctly following the requirements and will not be happy if we end up being wrong. Which is my main question to DBS. Why would you risk pissing off your customers with such complications over a long period of time? Imagine your customers tripping up unintentionally by making critical errors that should have been minor mistakes in the grand scheme of things and end up losing the interest earned. How much of a fuss/storm do you think they would kick up?

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